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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shana for sharing your first hand college experiences, and how it&#039;s led you to the meetup project you&#039;re planning.  I also included our reply chain from Fred Wilson&#039;s blog.</description>
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		<title>By: ShanaC</title>
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		<description>Some Extra Comments:&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m in Higher Education at a Name Brand Place.  I will admit that in certain ways, I can&#039;t hack it at all.  Part of this is not having a support network back where I come from, part of this is upbringing, part of this utter confusion early on over what I wanted, and a slower developmental track of figuring out how to get there. (And there are days where I still have that, apparently that is normal at my age.)  And the last, is not having the patience with myself to admit that I am who I am- which is Shana.  Apparently I did not want to admit to myself for a very long time that I am sensory oriented at all.  Also in terms of what this means in people.  I prefer coffee shops to bars for a reason.  Alcohol and overly loud, packed places can be overwhelming, even if I love being around people.  I realize I can do quite a lot, but I need to backtrack and figure out how to do it in terms of who I am, and in terms of what I need.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hacking education can be difficult if you don&#039;t figure these sorts of things out early on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Education has a value in teaching you how to think- I would not go around and creating groups like the one below if it did not.  It is not going to teach you how to become a coding superstar.  In fact, I would argue that working closely with someone for four hours 2x a week on coding in some language about the basics of coding in any language, and coming up with some project will probably teach you more than going to school.*  Same goes with math.  Understanding the how and the why people learn will get you further than getting the material across.  And most of all, the same goes with the humanities.  Teaching the process of creative iteration and to work with yourself and your strengths across a wide body of material is abnormally difficult.  Further difficulties entail that most people are not bright shining stars in front of 10 people, let alone 30.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hacking higher education means hacking the best and worse of it- it means placing back in mixed use labs and getting people to talk in them to breaking people down into small groups that actually accomplish a wide variety of behaviors and skills.  Having a major may be sort of pointless in this environment.  Knowing how to code and knowing color theory, knowing the fundamentals of history, of media, of science, probably is not.  Getting core professorial staff to have the students do research (or research like) work from the day they walk in is the fundamental goal.  Even if someone drops out, by the end of their first year a student should be accomplished enough to start feeling comfortable with a variety of materials and people to get jobs done.  Most students, don&#039;t.  Most professors, also don&#039;t.  The professors are distant from me, and this is a problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An event like the one below actually could work, even if I started it just to learn to code and have someone to read with.  Really.  Mixed learning really is better.  &lt;strong&gt;When was the last time you asked yourself about the first lines of the Politics and how it relates to MomBlogs?  Should you?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*(The reason I know this is that I just pulled out of a comp sci course in which I was pulling more time than that, I came in knowing nothing and I was working more than that a week.  Teacher was ok, but couldn&#039;t fully get that I needed visual explanations, and therefore was having a hard time asking questions.  I covered half the course material in 2 weeks- but it was not a sane way of working when it came to my other work...So I know it is possible, and doable)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(and yes, I am in the long process of getting a blog up...it should be interesting...)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posting what I posted on Fred&#039;s Blog Word for Word&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One up:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In an odd coincidence:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because:&lt;br&gt;1)I&#039;ve been told by a good source that if I needed to learn a first coding language, it should be Ruby. (thought I have heard around that Scala and Python are also good choices for a variety of reasons: Scala for scalibility, and Python because it is widely used and it is easier than Java, which I had major trouble with trying to learn in under 6 weeks flat...don&#039;t do that.)&lt;br&gt;2) I also realized that I need to read more. especially to develop a well grounded Bachelors. But not exclusively because of that. Just to feel better and happier.&lt;br&gt;3) Lots of people probably want to be cross learning. The world has an impact what they do has an impact. Understanding why is a priority for some people out there and creating groups that cater seemed like a good idea at the time.&lt;br&gt;4) Although I&#039;ve read some of these texts, I&#039;ve never read them for the sake of media.&lt;br&gt;5) I think it is strange that we have moved so far away from the basic classics. Or that we can&#039;t decide what the new classics should be. And I think it is strange that these classics are not as influential as they should be, because we are not reading them, we are reading things about them.&lt;br&gt;6) I wonder if I read and learn to code at the time- will it make for better code in the long term? A more well thought out plan? Because I thought about the human consequences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope this helps. If you know of anyone who is interested....(Since right now this is my summer break plans...Along with BA work)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Extra Comments:<br />I&#39;m in Higher Education at a Name Brand Place.  I will admit that in certain ways, I can&#39;t hack it at all.  Part of this is not having a support network back where I come from, part of this is upbringing, part of this utter confusion early on over what I wanted, and a slower developmental track of figuring out how to get there. (And there are days where I still have that, apparently that is normal at my age.)  And the last, is not having the patience with myself to admit that I am who I am- which is Shana.  Apparently I did not want to admit to myself for a very long time that I am sensory oriented at all.  Also in terms of what this means in people.  I prefer coffee shops to bars for a reason.  Alcohol and overly loud, packed places can be overwhelming, even if I love being around people.  I realize I can do quite a lot, but I need to backtrack and figure out how to do it in terms of who I am, and in terms of what I need.</p>
<p>Hacking education can be difficult if you don&#39;t figure these sorts of things out early on.</p>
<p>Education has a value in teaching you how to think- I would not go around and creating groups like the one below if it did not.  It is not going to teach you how to become a coding superstar.  In fact, I would argue that working closely with someone for four hours 2x a week on coding in some language about the basics of coding in any language, and coming up with some project will probably teach you more than going to school.*  Same goes with math.  Understanding the how and the why people learn will get you further than getting the material across.  And most of all, the same goes with the humanities.  Teaching the process of creative iteration and to work with yourself and your strengths across a wide body of material is abnormally difficult.  Further difficulties entail that most people are not bright shining stars in front of 10 people, let alone 30.</p>
<p>Hacking higher education means hacking the best and worse of it- it means placing back in mixed use labs and getting people to talk in them to breaking people down into small groups that actually accomplish a wide variety of behaviors and skills.  Having a major may be sort of pointless in this environment.  Knowing how to code and knowing color theory, knowing the fundamentals of history, of media, of science, probably is not.  Getting core professorial staff to have the students do research (or research like) work from the day they walk in is the fundamental goal.  Even if someone drops out, by the end of their first year a student should be accomplished enough to start feeling comfortable with a variety of materials and people to get jobs done.  Most students, don&#39;t.  Most professors, also don&#39;t.  The professors are distant from me, and this is a problem.</p>
<p>An event like the one below actually could work, even if I started it just to learn to code and have someone to read with.  Really.  Mixed learning really is better.  <strong>When was the last time you asked yourself about the first lines of the Politics and how it relates to MomBlogs?  Should you?</strong></p>
<p>*(The reason I know this is that I just pulled out of a comp sci course in which I was pulling more time than that, I came in knowing nothing and I was working more than that a week.  Teacher was ok, but couldn&#39;t fully get that I needed visual explanations, and therefore was having a hard time asking questions.  I covered half the course material in 2 weeks- but it was not a sane way of working when it came to my other work&#8230;So I know it is possible, and doable)</p>
<p>(and yes, I am in the long process of getting a blog up&#8230;it should be interesting&#8230;)</p>
<p>Posting what I posted on Fred&#39;s Blog Word for Word</p>
<p>One up:</p>
<p>In an odd coincidence:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Because:<br />1)I&#39;ve been told by a good source that if I needed to learn a first coding language, it should be Ruby. (thought I have heard around that Scala and Python are also good choices for a variety of reasons: Scala for scalibility, and Python because it is widely used and it is easier than Java, which I had major trouble with trying to learn in under 6 weeks flat&#8230;don&#39;t do that.)<br />2) I also realized that I need to read more. especially to develop a well grounded Bachelors. But not exclusively because of that. Just to feel better and happier.<br />3) Lots of people probably want to be cross learning. The world has an impact what they do has an impact. Understanding why is a priority for some people out there and creating groups that cater seemed like a good idea at the time.<br />4) Although I&#39;ve read some of these texts, I&#39;ve never read them for the sake of media.<br />5) I think it is strange that we have moved so far away from the basic classics. Or that we can&#39;t decide what the new classics should be. And I think it is strange that these classics are not as influential as they should be, because we are not reading them, we are reading things about them.<br />6) I wonder if I read and learn to code at the time- will it make for better code in the long term? A more well thought out plan? Because I thought about the human consequences.</p>
<p>I hope this helps. If you know of anyone who is interested&#8230;.(Since right now this is my summer break plans&#8230;Along with BA work)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
		<link>http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009/06/06/hacking-startups-a-declaration-of-institutional-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shana for sharing your first hand college experiences, and how it&#039;s led you to the meetup project you&#039;re planning.  I also included our reply chain from Fred Wilson&#039;s blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Shana</title>
		<link>http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009/06/06/hacking-startups-a-declaration-of-institutional-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Shana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Extra Comments:&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m in Higher Education at a Name Brand Place.  I will admit that in certain ways, I can&#039;t hack it at all.  Part of this is not having a support network back where I come from, part of this is upbringing, part of this utter confusion early on over what I wanted, and a slower developmental track of figuring out how to get there. (And there are days where I still have that, apparently that is normal at my age.)  And the last, is not having the patience with myself to admit that I am who I am- which is Shana.  Apparently I did not want to admit to myself for a very long time that I am sensory oriented at all.  Also in terms of what this means in people.  I prefer coffee shops to bars for a reason.  Alcohol and overly loud, packed places can be overwhelming, even if I love being around people.  I realize I can do quite a lot, but I need to backtrack and figure out how to do it in terms of who I am, and in terms of what I need.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hacking education can be difficult if you don&#039;t figure these sorts of things out early on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Education has a value in teaching you how to think- I would not go around and creating groups like the one below if it did not.  It is not going to teach you how to become a coding superstar.  In fact, I would argue that working closely with someone for four hours 2x a week on coding in some language about the basics of coding in any language, and coming up with some project will probably teach you more than going to school.*  Same goes with math.  Understanding the how and the why people learn will get you further than getting the material across.  And most of all, the same goes with the humanities.  Teaching the process of creative iteration and to work with yourself and your strengths across a wide body of material is abnormally difficult.  Further difficulties entail that most people are not bright shining stars in front of 10 people, let alone 30.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hacking higher education means hacking the best and worse of it- it means placing back in mixed use labs and getting people to talk in them to breaking people down into small groups that actually accomplish a wide variety of behaviors and skills.  Having a major may be sort of pointless in this environment.  Knowing how to code and knowing color theory, knowing the fundamentals of history, of media, of science, probably is not.  Getting core professorial staff to have the students do research (or research like) work from the day they walk in is the fundamental goal.  Even if someone drops out, by the end of their first year a student should be accomplished enough to start feeling comfortable with a variety of materials and people to get jobs done.  Most students, don&#039;t.  Most professors, also don&#039;t.  The professors are distant from me, and this is a problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An event like the one below actually could work, even if I started it just to learn to code and have someone to read with.  Really.  Mixed learning really is better.  &lt;strong&gt;When was the last time you asked yourself about the first lines of the Politics and how it relates to MomBlogs?  Should you?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*(The reason I know this is that I just pulled out of a comp sci course in which I was pulling more time than that, I came in knowing nothing and I was working more than that a week.  Teacher was ok, but couldn&#039;t fully get that I needed visual explanations, and therefore was having a hard time asking questions.  I covered half the course material in 2 weeks- but it was not a sane way of working when it came to my other work...So I know it is possible, and doable)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(and yes, I am in the long process of getting a blog up...it should be interesting...)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posting what I posted on Fred&#039;s Blog Word for Word&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One up:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In an odd coincidence:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because:&lt;br&gt;1)I&#039;ve been told by a good source that if I needed to learn a first coding language, it should be Ruby. (thought I have heard around that Scala and Python are also good choices for a variety of reasons: Scala for scalibility, and Python because it is widely used and it is easier than Java, which I had major trouble with trying to learn in under 6 weeks flat...don&#039;t do that.)&lt;br&gt;2) I also realized that I need to read more. especially to develop a well grounded Bachelors. But not exclusively because of that. Just to feel better and happier.&lt;br&gt;3) Lots of people probably want to be cross learning. The world has an impact what they do has an impact. Understanding why is a priority for some people out there and creating groups that cater seemed like a good idea at the time.&lt;br&gt;4) Although I&#039;ve read some of these texts, I&#039;ve never read them for the sake of media.&lt;br&gt;5) I think it is strange that we have moved so far away from the basic classics. Or that we can&#039;t decide what the new classics should be. And I think it is strange that these classics are not as influential as they should be, because we are not reading them, we are reading things about them.&lt;br&gt;6) I wonder if I read and learn to code at the time- will it make for better code in the long term? A more well thought out plan? Because I thought about the human consequences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope this helps. If you know of anyone who is interested....(Since right now this is my summer break plans...Along with BA work)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Extra Comments:<br />I&#39;m in Higher Education at a Name Brand Place.  I will admit that in certain ways, I can&#39;t hack it at all.  Part of this is not having a support network back where I come from, part of this is upbringing, part of this utter confusion early on over what I wanted, and a slower developmental track of figuring out how to get there. (And there are days where I still have that, apparently that is normal at my age.)  And the last, is not having the patience with myself to admit that I am who I am- which is Shana.  Apparently I did not want to admit to myself for a very long time that I am sensory oriented at all.  Also in terms of what this means in people.  I prefer coffee shops to bars for a reason.  Alcohol and overly loud, packed places can be overwhelming, even if I love being around people.  I realize I can do quite a lot, but I need to backtrack and figure out how to do it in terms of who I am, and in terms of what I need.</p>
<p>Hacking education can be difficult if you don&#39;t figure these sorts of things out early on.</p>
<p>Education has a value in teaching you how to think- I would not go around and creating groups like the one below if it did not.  It is not going to teach you how to become a coding superstar.  In fact, I would argue that working closely with someone for four hours 2x a week on coding in some language about the basics of coding in any language, and coming up with some project will probably teach you more than going to school.*  Same goes with math.  Understanding the how and the why people learn will get you further than getting the material across.  And most of all, the same goes with the humanities.  Teaching the process of creative iteration and to work with yourself and your strengths across a wide body of material is abnormally difficult.  Further difficulties entail that most people are not bright shining stars in front of 10 people, let alone 30.</p>
<p>Hacking higher education means hacking the best and worse of it- it means placing back in mixed use labs and getting people to talk in them to breaking people down into small groups that actually accomplish a wide variety of behaviors and skills.  Having a major may be sort of pointless in this environment.  Knowing how to code and knowing color theory, knowing the fundamentals of history, of media, of science, probably is not.  Getting core professorial staff to have the students do research (or research like) work from the day they walk in is the fundamental goal.  Even if someone drops out, by the end of their first year a student should be accomplished enough to start feeling comfortable with a variety of materials and people to get jobs done.  Most students, don&#39;t.  Most professors, also don&#39;t.  The professors are distant from me, and this is a problem.</p>
<p>An event like the one below actually could work, even if I started it just to learn to code and have someone to read with.  Really.  Mixed learning really is better.  <strong>When was the last time you asked yourself about the first lines of the Politics and how it relates to MomBlogs?  Should you?</strong></p>
<p>*(The reason I know this is that I just pulled out of a comp sci course in which I was pulling more time than that, I came in knowing nothing and I was working more than that a week.  Teacher was ok, but couldn&#39;t fully get that I needed visual explanations, and therefore was having a hard time asking questions.  I covered half the course material in 2 weeks- but it was not a sane way of working when it came to my other work&#8230;So I know it is possible, and doable)</p>
<p>(and yes, I am in the long process of getting a blog up&#8230;it should be interesting&#8230;)</p>
<p>Posting what I posted on Fred&#39;s Blog Word for Word</p>
<p>One up:</p>
<p>In an odd coincidence:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetup.com/Learn-Foucault-Learn-to-C</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Because:<br />1)I&#39;ve been told by a good source that if I needed to learn a first coding language, it should be Ruby. (thought I have heard around that Scala and Python are also good choices for a variety of reasons: Scala for scalibility, and Python because it is widely used and it is easier than Java, which I had major trouble with trying to learn in under 6 weeks flat&#8230;don&#39;t do that.)<br />2) I also realized that I need to read more. especially to develop a well grounded Bachelors. But not exclusively because of that. Just to feel better and happier.<br />3) Lots of people probably want to be cross learning. The world has an impact what they do has an impact. Understanding why is a priority for some people out there and creating groups that cater seemed like a good idea at the time.<br />4) Although I&#39;ve read some of these texts, I&#39;ve never read them for the sake of media.<br />5) I think it is strange that we have moved so far away from the basic classics. Or that we can&#39;t decide what the new classics should be. And I think it is strange that these classics are not as influential as they should be, because we are not reading them, we are reading things about them.<br />6) I wonder if I read and learn to code at the time- will it make for better code in the long term? A more well thought out plan? Because I thought about the human consequences.</p>
<p>I hope this helps. If you know of anyone who is interested&#8230;.(Since right now this is my summer break plans&#8230;Along with BA work)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback, read the link and it was a good reminder of the &quot;color of money&quot; (funding types) that startups can pursue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, read the link and it was a good reminder of the &#8220;color of money&#8221; (funding types) that startups can pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback, read the link and it was a good reminder of the &quot;color of money&quot; (funding types) that startups can pursue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, read the link and it was a good reminder of the &#8220;color of money&#8221; (funding types) that startups can pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Essel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Essel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was an excellent post with some great information. We published some information on this topic too. You can see it here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bizconnectionsnow.com/blog/business-funding/business-funding-where-to-start/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bizconnectionsnow.com/blog/business-fund...&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an excellent post with some great information. We published some information on this topic too. You can see it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://bizconnectionsnow.com/blog/business-funding/business-funding-where-to-start/" rel="nofollow">http://bizconnectionsnow.com/blog/business-fund&#8230;</a></p>
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